In this episode, NENSC Co-chair Daniel Poneman and Dr. Kim Budil, Director of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, talk about the path that led her to leading the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, reflections on the history of the lab and its prior leaders, and explore the science of fusion, its potential commercial viability, and the role of NIF and fusion testing in ensuring the safety of the U.S. nuclear stockpile.

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